Hobo Radio 116 – Going Ben Linus on your hatch
- Lost discussion
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Week 116 Spotlight: Going Ben Linus on your hatch
This week, we are shaking things up a bit. In honor of Lost‘s impending final season, Joel Murphy and Lars have invited Chris Kirkman, HoboTrashcan’s resident Lost expert, on to discuss the show. Ben Linus himself, Michael Emerson, described Kirkman’s recaps as “one of the smartest articles I’ve ever read about what goes on on our show,” so needless to say, the guy knows what he’s talking about.
Joel and Lars, of course, do not. But much like Hurley on the show, they are here this week to represent the common man and to interject with their amusing comments. And to get plastered.
You see, like he does every week in his recaps, Kirkman is providing us all with a show-inspired drink recipe:
Combine equal parts bourbon and ginger brandy (or ginger beer, or even ginger ale, if you’re hard up – something with a bite), half as much sour mix, all over ice. The recipe can be tweaked, with ginger beer substituted, or with vodka instead of bourbon if you want more ginger flavor. Also, a good variation is using hot ginger tea, combine that with the brandy, add bourbon to taste.
So pour a nice tall one and enjoy the show.
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I’m drunk, and you guys are geniuses. Jacob have I loved, Esau have I hated. Good call on that biblical light vs. dark reference. I have to say that I think Locke is indeed special; his sacrifice did bring everyone back to the island – the role he played, the fact that he was healed, all of it culminates in a warped sense of purpose. And the question of purpose is undoubtedly an underlying theme in the show: why does anyone decide to do anything?
Kirkman, you are brilliant. The Island is a sentient location possessing balance – and the fact that Esau shows up when Man/Humanity comes into the picture is representative of this ancient struggle to maintain equilibrium in the face of variables, i.e. man and his ability to choose (see the second Matrix). I thought for a long time that the Island is a point between Heaven and Hell and the people who are ‘chosen’ are all ‘special’ in that they have reached a point in their lives when their humanity faces the ultimate challenge: will their consciousness transcend or will they be once again fail to recognize the greater scheme of things and thus be cast into the cycle of unfolding and continuously changing universal design.
The universe is created with a source of energy and a black hole … so it would go to suggest that the Island is in fact a microcosm of this greater sense of PURPOSE.
I think the aspect of time travel is indeed evidence that there are greater forces at work, and one must pay attention to the ultimate design; the greater driving purpose behind every initiative. And you know what…it is about the Journey, and the choices humanity is capable of making, for we are always the indeterminate factor.
Now THAT’S what I call a good comment; especially the “brilliant” part. Very intelligent discourse, Amanda – and I don’t just say that because you agreed with all of the points made in the podcast. I think this season will be very interesting as the writers delve deeper into the actual purpose of the island, and the metaphysical struggle for balance that has been occurring there for millennia.
Can’t wait for another season of LOST. I’m not gonna post anything deep until the show starts. Looking forward to your analysis on season 6.
Chris!! Good to see you back and theorizing over Lost. I loved your time travel analyses last year, and think they’re really going to show up in the new season. Your “The Island is a sentient location possessing balance” is right on! I think you’ll see that come very much into play this season. We all keep thinking about “who’s on Jacob’s side, who’s on MIB’s side?” but really, I think the Losties challenge will be to move past both of those sides into something new. I think we’ll see that the island itself wants balance, and Jacob and MIB create this balance – but what MIB has done has ‘tipped the scales’ and the Losties have to reestablish the balance.
Anyway, good to see you theorizing again, I’ll be sure to check back after the premier to see your comments!
I also want to say that after you watch the first episode of season 6, go back and watch ‘Flashes before your eyes’, and look for a ‘fleck of red’ that is referenced in both episodes…I think it’s a special sign…
Loosely related to this podcast specifically.
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I’ve procrastinated jotting down some thoughts regarding the end of season five and the start of season six, where we are, where we’re going, etc… and now it’s nearly zero hour and I haven’t even begun to attempt to clarify things in my head. Oh, well. What follows will most certainly be wicked rambly and nowhere near as coherent as what Amanda wrote above.
Thing the first, regarding Jacob and Not-Locke (or Esau, as you call him, which makes sense given that story): I also hope the game between these god-like characters will be brought back to the human level. You’ve got both Jacob and Esau/Not-Locke manipulating certain characters and bringing them to the island for all sorts of purposes to which we are not privy. They’re being used in some sort of replay of a story between Jacob and Esau/Not-Locke. I agree with what you said in your recap of the final episode of the fifth season that the story works better (meaning that we can relate to it better) if the characters and events are more at the human level.
Thing the second, minutiae regarding the cabin: I’ve been toying with the idea that the circle of ash surrounding the cabin was perhaps to keep Esau (rather than Jacob) in and not so much to protect Jacob. The voice saying “help me” could have been Esau. And Ilana seemed very afraid when she realized that whoever it was she was looking for in the cabin was not there… and then they had the real Locke’s body… yeah, rambly. Ok, moving on.
I’m hoping that the bomb/event/whatever that happened at the end of season five isn’t a complete do-over. But I also have my doubts regarding just how many of the unanswered questions will actually get answered. So I don’t have any clue as to how much of the story thus far will get reset, if any of it does.
I can’t wait to see what role Des and Penny will have as well as Hurley (and what IS in that guitar case that Jacob left in the cab?)… and do so hope that we’ll see our favorite deceased characters make a reappearance.
Not having lived through the past five seasons in real time (having only caught up these last several months) I’m so looking forward to playing along for the final season.
Oh, and the drink recipe was super yum. Probably going to make my own ginger syrup to add, though. Extra zing!